Well that’s one Tortured Poets Department mystery solved.
Musician Lucy Dacus is coming clean about that “Lucy” namedrop in the title track of Taylor Swift‘s 11th studio album, revealing what many fans — including us here at Entertainment Weekly — assumed, namely, that it’s Dacus that Swift is referring to.
For those unfamiliar with the tune, Swift sings, “Sometimes, I wonder if you’re gonna screw this up with me / But you told Lucy you’d kill yourself if I ever leave / And I had said that to Jack about you, so I felt seen / Everyone we know understands why it’s meant to be / ‘Cause we’re crazy.”
When asked about the mention in an interview with PEOPLE, Dacus said, “I think it’s fair game to say ‘yes.’ [Swift] actually texted me and asked for my approval.”
Dacus, a member of the indie rock group Boygenius (which also consists of singer-songwriters Julien Baker and Phoebe Bridgers), just released a new album — her fourth solo record, Forever Is a Feeling, via Geffen Records on Friday. To PEOPLE, she also revealed her reaction to the The Tortured Poets Department when she first heard it.
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“Well, I pushed play on the album just like, ‘Oh, this is so crazy,'” Dacus recalled. “This is the first Taylor record to come out since meeting her, and listening to a friend’s record feels so much different than a stranger’s record.”
She continued: “So I was like, ‘This is really weird. This voice that I’ve heard basically what feels like my whole waking life saying my name.'”
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“It was definitely an experience,” said Dacus. “I sat down and I was like, ‘Huh. Wow.’ But I think that that record of hers is super open-hearted, and I don’t know how many people at her level, if anyone is at her level, are writing from the heart that openly.”
Swift traditionally remains mum on who her songs are about, but in addition to Dacus, it seems that frequent collaborator Jack Antonoff and ex Matty Healy get mentions on “Tortured Poets,” as do fellow musicians Charlie Puth, Dylan Thomas, and Patti Smith.
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Forever Is a Feeling‘s release comes replete with a special performance video for new single “Bullseye,” featuring Hozier. The album’s debut single, “Ankles,” was launched with a performance on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon in January.
Dacus will also embark on the Forever Is A Feeling Tour beginning in Philadelphia on April 16. The tour, her largest to date, includes Radio City Music Hall in New York, two nights at The Greek Theater in Los Angeles, and a night at Red Rocks in Denver before heading to the UK and Europe in June.