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On Day 64, US correspondent Martha Kelner is joined by KT McFarland, who served as deputy national security adviser under Donald Trump during the early, turbulent months of his first administration.

A long-time national security analyst and former Pentagon official under Ronald Reagan, she became a key figure during the Trump transition and later found herself drawn into the Mueller investigation – a nearly two-year probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Martha and KT discuss why she believes Trump is leading global negotiations on Ukraine, Russia, and beyond, and KT defends Elon Musk’s role at the Pentagon.

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